Jeremy (00:00)
Once upon a time, once upon a time, a prince asked the wizard to see his true love. The wizard said, I asked Google's Nano Banana, and it gave me a dog named AI.

Jim (00:13)
Yes, that's just mean that's just chat GPT being mean in their shot at Google. That's it. It's not funny. It's a

Jeremy (00:20)
shot

at the prince is, well, maybe. mean, people do love their dogs. It's true.

Jim (00:27)
It might be

fair, it might be insightful, but it's not funny. ⁓

Jeremy (00:30)
not funny

Jim (00:39)
Thus proving AI is never funny. Funny names for funny new apps and new bits of technology. like Nano Banana, we're not gonna get into that just yet. Tease, a little tease, because you teased it in the joke. But Nano Banana is Google's new, one of new little bits of technology that we're gonna get into a little bit.

Jeremy (00:42)
Once again, our weekly proof.

Excited about that.

Jim (01:03)
So, but before that, but wait, there's more. There's three quick pieces we're gonna cover and then dive into Nano Banana, which is kind of the big thing we're getting into. first one is Veo, which is another Google. So two Google for the price of one. Two Google things and basically Google is starting to kill it a little bit because they had fallen behind OpenAI.

Jeremy (01:26)
Well, I don't know if I agree with that. like to think that they have really focused in on providing integrated AI to their workspace product. The problem with that is it's a little Microsoft in flavor.

Jim (01:41)
But look,

ultimately won. their realms they

Jeremy (01:46)
In enterprise, Enterprise being

big business.

Jim (01:51)
Yeah,

so so let's hit hit via a little bit here via there's a little opportunity that might be gone by now, but there's a little opportunity and you're going to see these regularly where different tools or different new releases are even for their upgraded versions are letting you use them for free or discounted rates for short periods of time while they test or even while they just.

Jeremy (02:13)
Are you teasing something else?

Jim (02:15)
Maybe

maybe something soon to come from us. But no, this is more just about like what goes on in general and the whole takeaway there is just like get into it. So VO is you want to hit the shirt. Is deeper here.

Jeremy (02:25)
⁓ Vio is, I think it

is sort of Google's reply to Sora. Seven, eight second video generation from a prompt. It actually is really, really good. I did not have a great experience with Sora when it first came out. I would say this was a decent experience. And what I like about it is sort of two-fold, real quick. Upload a photo, give it a prompt, it'll create a whole video from it. And that's pretty cool.

Jim (02:53)
And then you can stitch those longer term. You could stitch those clips together into a story and whatever if you wanted to.

Jeremy (02:59)
Well, this is

actually the part that I really like is that when it gives you that first video, you can then prompt it a second time. And if there were characters in the first clip, those characters will continue in the second.

Jim (03:10)
Third, consistency.

Yes. Whether it's you as a person, really if it's your products, it's your services, whatever it might be.

Jeremy (03:18)
But

a watch out, it does hallucinate. I just, you quick example, I uploaded a picture of my grandfather who was a World War Two pilot captain ⁓ in the Army Air Corps and uploaded a picture. I said, make a make a clip of this captain flying his B-24 in the Pacific theater. And it was shocking how awesome it was until the last second when some missile turrets came out of the top of the wing.

and it was, it definitely went a little For those first six seconds there were just scary amazing.

Jim (03:51)
Again, as with most things, it's

Another piece that we picked up on that was kind of a little out of the ordinary for us, and that was about Mark Cuban kind of taking a tact of for Yahoo Finance picked it up, but I think it was from maybe Business Insider or something, but it's just the uncertainty over tariffs and how so many businesses, big businesses especially, are buying and loading up inventory right now. then I think you were kind of questioning like, well, how is this relevant to...

Jeremy (04:23)
I went

to gym and I said, gym. I asked my gym bot.

Jim (04:29)
AI and he gave you some insights. Basically just the idea though that using predictive tools, using AI tools for being able to forecast ahead and know what markets are going to be and starting to see supply and demand needs for your own products or services and then going out if you're able to like these big corporations are doing as a smaller company being able to say, you know what, if ⁓ widgets or sprockets are gonna be and if I know I use, ⁓

Jeremy (04:58)
Very tasty.

Jim (04:59)
Exactly. If I know I use, you know, thousand of those a month and I know they're going to double in price over the course of the next three months, well then you know what? I'm going to sink some of my cashflow into that because it's an investment. It's not just that I need them. It's that I'm going to have access to them and I'm going to basically take it as if you would in the stock market or savings account and you're going to get interest basically on it because you're going to be able to pay for a much lower price and then sell them or use them and charge a much higher price. Simple supply and demand.

simple, you know, increasing your margins. But a lot of business owners, especially small ones, don't think in those lines, but AI tools can help them not have to think about it to just do some of these things automatically or prompt.

Jeremy (05:39)
And I think when I saw this article at first, Podbot usually does a pretty great job of ⁓ curating things for us. I didn't understand it, but when you pointed that out to me, I think thematically in terms of the things we've been talking about for a year now, this is, again, another opportunity where the small business, medium-sized business owner, ⁓ staff can take advantage of AI and compete in ways which otherwise were impossible. ⁓

Jim (06:07)
Yeah. And so predicting those costs and being able to figure them into your plans for the future, even if it's immediate future, is really important.

Jeremy (06:18)
You were telling me that

when you explained it to me before, were saying that the sort of walking mantra for small businesses is just in time ordering. Don't keep any extra inventory around. In general, yeah. And that now with AI and predictive models, this idea of turning something potentially negative, like tariffs, into an opportunity. stoic of you. love it. The opportunity is the obstacle is the way. And this is definitely the way.

Jim (06:43)
And so I know we've talked before about the idea of, know, like, do you buy chocolate is popular, matcha, whatever it is, like a particular item. Like, let's say you were a restaurateur. Matcha's popular. What's that? I matcha's pretty popular.

Jeremy (06:57)
I don't know. I don't keep up with these things.

Jim (07:00)
Let's say it's

Dubai chocolate. It's super popular. All of a sudden it's raging and you're a bakery, you own a bakery or a little chain of bakeries and maybe you just want to now infuse it in. That's great. But now what if you know that the ingredients related to Dubai chocolate are going to spike up because they're so, you know, accelerating so fast. And you're like, you know what, I know this is going to be hot. I know it's not just going to be hot for me when I introduce it. I need enough supply of my ingredients, my raw goods to be prepared. And so I'm going to buy a little extra at a lower price point because I know I'm

looking at the trends to whatever is involved with Dubai chocolate and they're all scaling up and increasing in cost and the forecast through using some predictive technology with AI is telling me that. So not only can you use AI tools to help you spot trends for your own business, right? As far as like what products or services to offer that are hot or trending, you can also use it to actually help you hit your bets and know what to buy more of because the costs.

Jeremy (07:56)
And

it's not just it's not just where they resellers it's for you know You have a cupcake business or a donut business or you make shirts and you need embellishments or heat press materials or whatever it is Yeah, this is an opportunity for you to get ahead of whatever it is Whatever that tariff situation might be or any of anything else in your supply chain because today's tariffs tomorrow. It's something else

Jim (08:15)
always

something.

Yeah. So the main thing we wanted to get into because this is the most current most fresh and that's Nano Banana, which is Google's new, ⁓ new tool, new AI tool. And it's called game changing as every tool as every new AI tool is called. This one though, I like the name because I think it's memorable. Like I can remember that name. It's like the Yahoo of you know,

Jeremy (08:35)
It went viral.

2025.

Jim (08:44)
except maybe,

yeah, I don't know. So why don't you jump into what this is? Because basically it's just Gemini's ⁓ 2.5 flash image, but they've branded it as, right? Because that Gemini 2.5 flash image, a business owner or a person is not going to remember that.

Jeremy (08:54)
Nano banana

I just had a hold on

pause. just had a crazy moment. You said 2.5 flash, duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper duper

Jim (09:25)
This one's

more on point and I'm kind of surprised from Google, but in general, mean, I chat GPT and open AI that owns them handles it worse. I'm kind of surprised that Google actually positioned it, but it starts to make sense because the smoother you make these things, the easier they are and the more you can brand them, right? Because again, chat GPT wasn't a great name. No, it was a terrible name and not that memorable.

Jeremy (09:49)
Still

is a terrible thing.

Jim (09:50)
It is,

but guess what? When we say AI right now, like we've talked about many, many other times on these episodes, people say...

Jeremy (09:57)
You

said it. It's the Kleenex of...

Jim (10:00)
Exactly.

So jump in to like, you've used this, right?

Jeremy (10:05)
GPT that for you. ⁓

I

have and I have to say that there's two really amazing things about this. ⁓ The first is its ability to render. mean, it's definitely ⁓ right there at the cusp ⁓ of all of the best bleeding edge, great render engines. But what I love about it, similar to what I was just talking about before with video, when you ask it to create an avatar or a composition,

you can have continuity from image to image to image. So if you are creating a model that's a fashion model for a handbag or for a piece of clothing.

Jim (10:49)
literally a

person.

Jeremy (10:51)
And then

that person is eating a donut in the first ⁓ picture. And in the second picture, they're eating a different kind of donut. You can have that same model. And before, these image render engines, the AI behind it, you'd get weird things that would change and it wouldn't look like the same person or something would be weirdly off. Now it's

Jim (11:14)
So consistent branding, consistent

characters or products without having to be frustrated. We're like, wow, the improvements I wanted in this version are good, but the other aspects have changed.

Jeremy (11:27)
There is a really

important thing here for business, which is that you can use this with an API, right? So application programming interface. This is where different technologies which aren't part of the same ecosystem can communicate with each other. So you could have your website communicating with ⁓ Gemini to render images of all of your purses.

Jim (11:49)
But it's natural, it's natural language. It's just, you just.

Jeremy (11:52)
You send a prompt like you would prompt any other.

And it will return your model with the red bag. And now if you change it and say now the yellow one of the same model, will keep the fashion model, swap out the bag. It gives you tremendous power for brand continuity from image to image.

Jim (12:13)
and we say model, it could be the small business owner who is or the general manager of a particular store or salon, whatever it might be, the person or you as a budding entrepreneur who wants to get into business but has no idea how to start, you get into this technology, you start to communicate with people, you start to put yourself out there, instead of generating all of your own content, but in particular, instead of generating your own product placement and things of that nature, you can now do it in a much more automated way. Now the transparency approach

pricing for small business owners. Like how does this work right now? Do you know any of that or not really? ⁓

Jeremy (12:49)
I have only

begun to dabble with it, but what I can tell you from having used other Google Cloud products, of which this is part of the ecosystem, is that there's some really great predictable costs here. when you know, like, okay, it's this much to generate an image, and you know how many images you are creating monthly, it's really easy to understand what the cost is going to look like month over month in order for you to create images in real time using the API or just using the prompt.

Jim (13:18)
Yeah, absolutely. And the whole real thing here is that if you can give small, medium-sized business owners, and also just regular people who just want to kind of get themselves out there and start doing stuff, this gives them another real-world great example utilizing something that, again, Google has branded a certain way to try and captivate people's interest and cut through the clutter of what AI is in a real way that hopefully they can start.

Jeremy (13:47)
Nothing says creativity like banana.

Jim (13:50)
well, listen, the Savannah

bananas are a hit. mean, they're wildly popular. You're not to see it's like heads down, Jeremy's head down, focused in on technology and not on society. There was some obscure ska band from the eighties though, you know it off the top of your. Is there anything else you could think of right now that would be like.

Jeremy (14:03)
Going back to my bat cave to write.

That is probably true. ⁓

I'm still on

Ska Band for me.

Jim (14:19)
I think that pretty well covers it for this week.